Chef @ my retirement home sys only ans is armed guards at every elementary school. I said it will only chip away at our humanity. He said I was just hippy dippy from '60s, who wants Utopia. Grrr
46 minutes ago · Like
John At that point we need the barbed wire and 10' fences and searchlights. Why stop at armed guards? This country has a problem with either/or solutions. Either cars or planes, nothing else. Either Democrats or Republicans, nothing else. Either no guns or everyone has a gun. Etc.
44 minutes ago · Like
Seth It may not be the world that we want but it is the world that we have. I don't like the fact that I have to go through enhanced security at the airport but it keeps us safe. The only way to prevent this from happening is putting trained police presence at every school. It would serve 2 purposes defense and deterrent. More laws may lessen the probability that this will happen by a miniscule amount. If we want a more solid guarantee a police presence is necessary. You may not like it but I like the odds better of my child's safety with a police presence rather than some laws that will not prevent any of this from happening again.
31 minutes ago via mobile · Like
John Seth, you're wrong. And the NRA is wrong. I don't have anything else to say.
30 minutes ago · Like
Seth I'm waiting to hear a legitimate argument other than "you are wrong and the NRA is wrong"
26 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford I got into this w/ppl at my retirement home. John, you are right, look at our fiscal cliff debates. "Compromise" has come to mean, "How do I get more than them?" Instead of "what solution help's the most while hurting the fewest?" We have SO MANY options that do NOT require GUNS in schools. Hang on, Seth, I'm typing.
25 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford I was a security guard (no gun) for years. 2 ppl monitor the perimeter via cameras. Sr Cit & Ppl w/disb would love that job, and give it their all, then invisible fence, alarm goes off, LOUD, police notified.
21 minutes ago · Like
John Seth, there are a million 'legitimate arguments'. Plenty of other people are making them. You've made up your mind - it's not a discussion when there's no interest in listening. I believe there's a middle ground that doesn't require banning guns or armed guards at every elementary school. The fact that you're comparing this to the TSA tells me you've already decided this is an acceptable answer. I don't believe that. Again, not much else to say.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford Seth, wasn't there an armed guard at Columbine? HOW was that an answer to keeping kids safe?
15 minutes ago · Like
Seth I've heard more gun control laws I have not heard how they will keep this from happening. I am definitely listening. I understand not wanting to arm teachers. But trained police officers? Where is the problem. I would rather have a first responder onsite than minutes away when seconds count. I had a detective stationed at my high school and I grew up in the burbs with the rich and middle class.
@diane I understand what you are saying but these crazy people will kill despite the cameras and can get multiple shots off in the minutes it takes for the first responders to get there. And if we limit their magazine capacity then the crazy person will have to reload more times and it will cost him an extra couple of seconds. Police onsite are a deterrent and a defense for our kids.
Still waiting to hear another way to give my child the most safety in his school besides a police presence.
14 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Seth So yes there was an armed guard at Columbine. I am not saying that any method is fool proof but there is a higher probability of survival with a police presence than without. Plus I am sure that with all of the recent events there is specific training that would be given to someone in that position that would aid in their response to another crisis.
11 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, the electric fence will stop the intruder. He will not make it to the school b4 kids are sheltered in a safe room. The cops will arrive in time, and often the "bad guys" kill themsleves b4 taking the chance of being someone's bitch in prison.
8 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, there is ALSO a MUCH HIGHER probability that your children will NEVER be attacked by a gunman in elementary school than they will---poor point you made.
6 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Want to keep your kids safe? STOP DRIVING CARS! THAT causes the highest death among children. Will you give that up to keep your kids safe??
about a minute ago · Like
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Chef @ my retirement home sys only ans is armed guards at every elementary school. I said it will only chip away at our humanity. He said I was just hippy dippy from '60s, who wants Utopia. Grrr
46 minutes ago · Like
John At that point we need the barbed wire and 10' fences and searchlights. Why stop at armed guards? This country has a problem with either/or solutions. Either cars or planes, nothing else. Either Democrats or Republicans, nothing else. Either no guns or everyone has a gun. Etc.
44 minutes ago · Like
Seth It may not be the world that we want but it is the world that we have. I don't like the fact that I have to go through enhanced security at the airport but it keeps us safe. The only way to prevent this from happening is putting trained police presence at every school. It would serve 2 purposes defense and deterrent. More laws may lessen the probability that this will happen by a miniscule amount. If we want a more solid guarantee a police presence is necessary. You may not like it but I like the odds better of my child's safety with a police presence rather than some laws that will not prevent any of this from happening again.
31 minutes ago via mobile · Like
John Seth, you're wrong. And the NRA is wrong. I don't have anything else to say.
30 minutes ago · Like
Seth I'm waiting to hear a legitimate argument other than "you are wrong and the NRA is wrong"
26 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford I got into this w/ppl at my retirement home. John, you are right, look at our fiscal cliff debates. "Compromise" has come to mean, "How do I get more than them?" Instead of "what solution help's the most while hurting the fewest?" We have SO MANY options that do NOT require GUNS in schools. Hang on, Seth, I'm typing.
25 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford I was a security guard (no gun) for years. 2 ppl monitor the perimeter via cameras. Sr Cit & Ppl w/disb would love that job, and give it their all, then invisible fence, alarm goes off, LOUD, police notified.
21 minutes ago · Like
John Seth, there are a million 'legitimate arguments'. Plenty of other people are making them. You've made up your mind - it's not a discussion when there's no interest in listening. I believe there's a middle ground that doesn't require banning guns or armed guards at every elementary school. The fact that you're comparing this to the TSA tells me you've already decided this is an acceptable answer. I don't believe that. Again, not much else to say.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford Seth, wasn't there an armed guard at Columbine? HOW was that an answer to keeping kids safe?
15 minutes ago · Like
Seth I've heard more gun control laws I have not heard how they will keep this from happening. I am definitely listening. I understand not wanting to arm teachers. But trained police officers? Where is the problem. I would rather have a first responder onsite than minutes away when seconds count. I had a detective stationed at my high school and I grew up in the burbs with the rich and middle class.
@diane I understand what you are saying but these crazy people will kill despite the cameras and can get multiple shots off in the minutes it takes for the first responders to get there. And if we limit their magazine capacity then the crazy person will have to reload more times and it will cost him an extra couple of seconds. Police onsite are a deterrent and a defense for our kids.
Still waiting to hear another way to give my child the most safety in his school besides a police presence.
14 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Seth So yes there was an armed guard at Columbine. I am not saying that any method is fool proof but there is a higher probability of survival with a police presence than without. Plus I am sure that with all of the recent events there is specific training that would be given to someone in that position that would aid in their response to another crisis.
11 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, the electric fence will stop the intruder. He will not make it to the school b4 kids are sheltered in a safe room. The cops will arrive in time, and often the "bad guys" kill themsleves b4 taking the chance of being someone's bitch in prison.
8 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, there is ALSO a MUCH HIGHER probability that your children will NEVER be attacked by a gunman in elementary school than they will---poor point you made.
6 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Want to keep your kids safe? STOP DRIVING CARS! THAT causes the highest death among children. Will you give that up to keep your kids safe??
about a minute ago · Like
Chef @ my retirement home sys only ans is armed guards at every elementary school. I said it will only chip away at our humanity. He said I was just hippy dippy from '60s, who wants Utopia. Grrr
46 minutes ago · Like
John At that point we need the barbed wire and 10' fences and searchlights. Why stop at armed guards? This country has a problem with either/or solutions. Either cars or planes, nothing else. Either Democrats or Republicans, nothing else. Either no guns or everyone has a gun. Etc.
44 minutes ago · Like
Seth It may not be the world that we want but it is the world that we have. I don't like the fact that I have to go through enhanced security at the airport but it keeps us safe. The only way to prevent this from happening is putting trained police presence at every school. It would serve 2 purposes defense and deterrent. More laws may lessen the probability that this will happen by a miniscule amount. If we want a more solid guarantee a police presence is necessary. You may not like it but I like the odds better of my child's safety with a police presence rather than some laws that will not prevent any of this from happening again.
31 minutes ago via mobile · Like
John Seth, you're wrong. And the NRA is wrong. I don't have anything else to say.
30 minutes ago · Like
Seth I'm waiting to hear a legitimate argument other than "you are wrong and the NRA is wrong"
26 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford I got into this w/ppl at my retirement home. John, you are right, look at our fiscal cliff debates. "Compromise" has come to mean, "How do I get more than them?" Instead of "what solution help's the most while hurting the fewest?" We have SO MANY options that do NOT require GUNS in schools. Hang on, Seth, I'm typing.
25 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford I was a security guard (no gun) for years. 2 ppl monitor the perimeter via cameras. Sr Cit & Ppl w/disb would love that job, and give it their all, then invisible fence, alarm goes off, LOUD, police notified.
21 minutes ago · Like
John Seth, there are a million 'legitimate arguments'. Plenty of other people are making them. You've made up your mind - it's not a discussion when there's no interest in listening. I believe there's a middle ground that doesn't require banning guns or armed guards at every elementary school. The fact that you're comparing this to the TSA tells me you've already decided this is an acceptable answer. I don't believe that. Again, not much else to say.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford Seth, wasn't there an armed guard at Columbine? HOW was that an answer to keeping kids safe?
15 minutes ago · Like
Seth I've heard more gun control laws I have not heard how they will keep this from happening. I am definitely listening. I understand not wanting to arm teachers. But trained police officers? Where is the problem. I would rather have a first responder onsite than minutes away when seconds count. I had a detective stationed at my high school and I grew up in the burbs with the rich and middle class.
@diane I understand what you are saying but these crazy people will kill despite the cameras and can get multiple shots off in the minutes it takes for the first responders to get there. And if we limit their magazine capacity then the crazy person will have to reload more times and it will cost him an extra couple of seconds. Police onsite are a deterrent and a defense for our kids.
Still waiting to hear another way to give my child the most safety in his school besides a police presence.
14 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Seth So yes there was an armed guard at Columbine. I am not saying that any method is fool proof but there is a higher probability of survival with a police presence than without. Plus I am sure that with all of the recent events there is specific training that would be given to someone in that position that would aid in their response to another crisis.
11 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, the electric fence will stop the intruder. He will not make it to the school b4 kids are sheltered in a safe room. The cops will arrive in time, and often the "bad guys" kill themsleves b4 taking the chance of being someone's bitch in prison.
8 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, there is ALSO a MUCH HIGHER probability that your children will NEVER be attacked by a gunman in elementary school than they will---poor point you made.
6 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Want to keep your kids safe? STOP DRIVING CARS! THAT causes the highest death among children. Will you give that up to keep your kids safe??
about a minute ago · Like
Chef @ my retirement home sys only ans is armed guards at every elementary school. I said it will only chip away at our humanity. He said I was just hippy dippy from '60s, who wants Utopia. Grrr
46 minutes ago · Like
John At that point we need the barbed wire and 10' fences and searchlights. Why stop at armed guards? This country has a problem with either/or solutions. Either cars or planes, nothing else. Either Democrats or Republicans, nothing else. Either no guns or everyone has a gun. Etc.
44 minutes ago · Like
Seth It may not be the world that we want but it is the world that we have. I don't like the fact that I have to go through enhanced security at the airport but it keeps us safe. The only way to prevent this from happening is putting trained police presence at every school. It would serve 2 purposes defense and deterrent. More laws may lessen the probability that this will happen by a miniscule amount. If we want a more solid guarantee a police presence is necessary. You may not like it but I like the odds better of my child's safety with a police presence rather than some laws that will not prevent any of this from happening again.
31 minutes ago via mobile · Like
John Seth, you're wrong. And the NRA is wrong. I don't have anything else to say.
30 minutes ago · Like
Seth I'm waiting to hear a legitimate argument other than "you are wrong and the NRA is wrong"
26 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford I got into this w/ppl at my retirement home. John, you are right, look at our fiscal cliff debates. "Compromise" has come to mean, "How do I get more than them?" Instead of "what solution help's the most while hurting the fewest?" We have SO MANY options that do NOT require GUNS in schools. Hang on, Seth, I'm typing.
25 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford I was a security guard (no gun) for years. 2 ppl monitor the perimeter via cameras. Sr Cit & Ppl w/disb would love that job, and give it their all, then invisible fence, alarm goes off, LOUD, police notified.
21 minutes ago · Like
John Seth, there are a million 'legitimate arguments'. Plenty of other people are making them. You've made up your mind - it's not a discussion when there's no interest in listening. I believe there's a middle ground that doesn't require banning guns or armed guards at every elementary school. The fact that you're comparing this to the TSA tells me you've already decided this is an acceptable answer. I don't believe that. Again, not much else to say.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford Seth, wasn't there an armed guard at Columbine? HOW was that an answer to keeping kids safe?
15 minutes ago · Like
Seth I've heard more gun control laws I have not heard how they will keep this from happening. I am definitely listening. I understand not wanting to arm teachers. But trained police officers? Where is the problem. I would rather have a first responder onsite than minutes away when seconds count. I had a detective stationed at my high school and I grew up in the burbs with the rich and middle class.
@diane I understand what you are saying but these crazy people will kill despite the cameras and can get multiple shots off in the minutes it takes for the first responders to get there. And if we limit their magazine capacity then the crazy person will have to reload more times and it will cost him an extra couple of seconds. Police onsite are a deterrent and a defense for our kids.
Still waiting to hear another way to give my child the most safety in his school besides a police presence.
14 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Seth So yes there was an armed guard at Columbine. I am not saying that any method is fool proof but there is a higher probability of survival with a police presence than without. Plus I am sure that with all of the recent events there is specific training that would be given to someone in that position that would aid in their response to another crisis.
11 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, the electric fence will stop the intruder. He will not make it to the school b4 kids are sheltered in a safe room. The cops will arrive in time, and often the "bad guys" kill themsleves b4 taking the chance of being someone's bitch in prison.
8 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, there is ALSO a MUCH HIGHER probability that your children will NEVER be attacked by a gunman in elementary school than they will---poor point you made.
6 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Want to keep your kids safe? STOP DRIVING CARS! THAT causes the highest death among children. Will you give that up to keep your kids safe??
about a minute ago · Like
Chef @ my retirement home sys only ans is armed guards at every elementary school. I said it will only chip away at our humanity. He said I was just hippy dippy from '60s, who wants Utopia. Grrr
46 minutes ago · Like
John At that point we need the barbed wire and 10' fences and searchlights. Why stop at armed guards? This country has a problem with either/or solutions. Either cars or planes, nothing else. Either Democrats or Republicans, nothing else. Either no guns or everyone has a gun. Etc.
44 minutes ago · Like
Seth It may not be the world that we want but it is the world that we have. I don't like the fact that I have to go through enhanced security at the airport but it keeps us safe. The only way to prevent this from happening is putting trained police presence at every school. It would serve 2 purposes defense and deterrent. More laws may lessen the probability that this will happen by a miniscule amount. If we want a more solid guarantee a police presence is necessary. You may not like it but I like the odds better of my child's safety with a police presence rather than some laws that will not prevent any of this from happening again.
31 minutes ago via mobile · Like
John Seth, you're wrong. And the NRA is wrong. I don't have anything else to say.
30 minutes ago · Like
Seth I'm waiting to hear a legitimate argument other than "you are wrong and the NRA is wrong"
26 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford I got into this w/ppl at my retirement home. John, you are right, look at our fiscal cliff debates. "Compromise" has come to mean, "How do I get more than them?" Instead of "what solution help's the most while hurting the fewest?" We have SO MANY options that do NOT require GUNS in schools. Hang on, Seth, I'm typing.
25 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford I was a security guard (no gun) for years. 2 ppl monitor the perimeter via cameras. Sr Cit & Ppl w/disb would love that job, and give it their all, then invisible fence, alarm goes off, LOUD, police notified.
21 minutes ago · Like
John Seth, there are a million 'legitimate arguments'. Plenty of other people are making them. You've made up your mind - it's not a discussion when there's no interest in listening. I believe there's a middle ground that doesn't require banning guns or armed guards at every elementary school. The fact that you're comparing this to the TSA tells me you've already decided this is an acceptable answer. I don't believe that. Again, not much else to say.
21 minutes ago · Like · 1
Diane J Standiford Seth, wasn't there an armed guard at Columbine? HOW was that an answer to keeping kids safe?
15 minutes ago · Like
Seth I've heard more gun control laws I have not heard how they will keep this from happening. I am definitely listening. I understand not wanting to arm teachers. But trained police officers? Where is the problem. I would rather have a first responder onsite than minutes away when seconds count. I had a detective stationed at my high school and I grew up in the burbs with the rich and middle class.
@diane I understand what you are saying but these crazy people will kill despite the cameras and can get multiple shots off in the minutes it takes for the first responders to get there. And if we limit their magazine capacity then the crazy person will have to reload more times and it will cost him an extra couple of seconds. Police onsite are a deterrent and a defense for our kids.
Still waiting to hear another way to give my child the most safety in his school besides a police presence.
14 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Seth So yes there was an armed guard at Columbine. I am not saying that any method is fool proof but there is a higher probability of survival with a police presence than without. Plus I am sure that with all of the recent events there is specific training that would be given to someone in that position that would aid in their response to another crisis.
11 minutes ago via mobile · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, the electric fence will stop the intruder. He will not make it to the school b4 kids are sheltered in a safe room. The cops will arrive in time, and often the "bad guys" kill themsleves b4 taking the chance of being someone's bitch in prison.
8 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Seth, there is ALSO a MUCH HIGHER probability that your children will NEVER be attacked by a gunman in elementary school than they will---poor point you made.
6 minutes ago · Like
Diane J Standiford Want to keep your kids safe? STOP DRIVING CARS! THAT causes the highest death among children. Will you give that up to keep your kids safe??
about a minute ago · Like
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